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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Bright Prospect for China-Canada Cooperation




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-------EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH THE CANADIAN SENATE SPEAKER KINSELLA




By Ottawa-based staff reporter Xuejiang Li



On the eve of his first visit to China, His Honorable the Speaker of the Senate of Canada's Parliament Kinsella expressed his optimistic outlook on the relations of Canada-China. Our staff reporter Xuejiang Li ded an exclusive interview with the Speaker Kinsella.The following is an except of the interview.


Li: what are the main purposes of your visit to China?

Kinsella:
I am going to lead a Speaker's delegation from the Senate of Canada to China. We will meet the members of the National People's Congress of China. We are engaged in what I'd call Parliamentary diplomacy, not the diplomacy of the executive branch of governments which is conducted by the Prime Minister and the foreign minister. Ours could be different from what I'd call the executive branch. We believe it is very important for Parliamentarians to understand from their point of view China and we'd learn a great deal from our interlocutors.

We have many legislative visits from China to Canada and we've learned a great deal from each other. It helps the Parliamentarians, from the Canadian point of view, to do our job which in part is supervision of the executive branch of government. So as to the visit, we are looking forward to it with great anticipation. We have been, since I've been Speaker, promoting strong Canadian-China inter-Parliamentary relations and it has been very successful to date.

The purpose of the visit is first and foremost to continue to strengthen the inter-Parliamentary relationship between Canada and China. We have the very good fortune of welcoming into the room behind you the President of China, Hu Jintao, last year when he was visiting Canada.

I'd go so far as to say Canada China Parliamentary relationship is the strongest as it has ever been in our history.

Li: What would you like to discuss with your Chinese counterpart?

Kinsella:
Well, I'd hope that a number of areas we are interested in discussing and learning about during our visit. One is in the area of post-secondary education. It is an opportunity for the Senators and the report we'll submit to the Senate upon our return to raise questions: Are we doing enough to facilitate a higher quality of change of professors and students between our two countries? Today there are some 75,000 students from China who are studying in Canada. I agree with his distinguished ambassador Zhang Junsei from China to Canada that we should double that and we should aim for 150,000.

His Excellency advised me that when he was the ambassador to Australia, they had 150,000 students from China studying in Australia. So, I am very pleased with that interest of the ambassador, I've a personal interest in it as I came from the university sector myself.

The other area is about research, science and technology. We must be both Canada and China need to be the world leaders, and if we have good communication between our top researchers, we can collaborate for the benefit of not only our two countries, but indeed for the world community.

One area which we'll be discussing with colleagues in China relates to a discussion that we began at the first meeting of the Speakers of the G20 countries. That is the security and sufficiency of world food supply and that is very important both for Canada and for China, not only from a domestic point of view, but also in terms of the global food chain.

We learned how important just in the area of agriculture, just take one example, the potato crop that Canadians were surprised to learn that China is one of the major potato producers in the world. And in Eastern Canada where I came from, the potato is really important and the research on the potato, particularly on the potato seed is cutting edge, very advanced. And that is an area where the Chinese and Canadian potato seed experts should be cooperating and I hope that our visit will encourage that cooperation on a practical level. One of the reasons for this is that using the best techniques of China and Canada in developing the potato seed, we will be able to collaboratively produce a potato seed that we could give to the Third World countries so that they grow their own potatoes.

So it is a fact that the research in China in this area is very valuable, very important that we are working together. Sometimes it takes a meeting of parliamentarians to ask why there is no better cooperation in research in this field and are researchers living in silos? One lives in one house and the other in the other house, and they don't share information that needs to be shared.

LI: Why, you as the Speaker of the Senate want to visit some Chinese ports?

Kinsella:
I'll tell you why, because, in the last 25 years, there has been a revolution in international shipping. Shipping across the Pacific Ocean between China and Canada has increased dramatically. And with the expansion of the Panama Canal, bigger ships could pass through. And there has been more traffic of the big ships from Chinese ports through the Suez across the Atlantic to Eastern Canada ports.

We are interested in making sure that our Pacific gateway and our Atlantic gateway are well connected with the gateways from Asia and particularly from China. The port operators in Tianjin and Shanghai are using very modern techniques. The whole world of shipping logistics has been changing and we as from the Canadian point of view want to make sure that our people who are operating Canadian ports are in close contact with the ports like the ports of Tianjin and Shanghai. Why? Because we are not competitors, on the contrary, we should be strategic partners and from the Canadian point of view, we would be happy to see more Chinese ships come to Canadian ports.

And you might be surprised to learn and we will share this with the people we meet at the ports that if the Chinese boat arrives in Vancouver on the Pacific Ocean or arrives on the Atlantic Ocean, Halifax, or St. John that the Canadian railway system that goes into the United States which is a very important market. A large portion are owned by the Canadian National Railways so that we can take a container from China on a Canadian train and the Canadian train travels all the way down, even to Texas of the U.S. The railways are owned by Canada, not owned by the United States. So these are recent new developments and we want to make sure as Senators that our Canadian transportation system is working at this new level with the great ports of China. So this is another practical part of our program.

Li: How would you like to assess the current relations between China and Canada, are you satisfied with it?

Kinsella:
As for the current Canada's relations with China: I think they have been developing in an extremely positive rate that we should look at statistics of not only economic collaboration, but also collaboration in social cultural areas as well. As I mentioned, we see many Canadians now are visiting China and Chinese authorities have made Canada one of the tourist destinations and that was done just before the Chinese President Hu Jintao made his visit to Canada.

Canada has been a beneficiary of the people of China from the beginning of Canada founding days and vice versa, Doctor Norman Bethune who spent years in China is also well known here... the people from China who had been coming to Canada hundreds of years ago, they had been major builders of Canada. And as you know, today Chinese is one of the most spoken languages in Canada. The three top languages spoken in Canada are English, French and Chinese.

I am not satisfied with the current situation between Canada and China because I think we can do more. We need to do much more in the area of culture, education, economic collaboration not only in terms of our bilateral but also how together we can help the global economy. For the last 10 years, you have seen the dramatic increasing of China-Canada collaboration in the mineral area.

We were talking about your newspaper and the importance of newsprint. Well, newsprint is a major manufacturing area in Canada. And no doubt the work that has been done to make paper more economically and ecologically friendly for the world and etc... There is a natural complementarity between Canada and China.

China has an enormous population compared to a small population of Canada, and Canada is encouraging more participation of Chinese Canadians in the growing of the Canadian economy. In my opinion, the world today is not the world of 25 years ago. Canada and China cannot look at socio-economic development only domestically because the world is more inter-related so the smart people, the Chinese and the Canadians, we must find doing things collaboratively, for the benefits of not only the peoples of China and Canada but also for the people of other countries.

Let me give you another concrete example, I was very impressed and very pleased to see in the waters off the Somali coast the Chinese navy has units and they have worked with Canadian ships, try to make safe the transit of international shipping. So it is important that China and Canada have been cooperating off the coast of Somalia.

Li: "Canada is talking free trade with India and Europe, why it hasn’t taken any initiative to launch free trade agreement talks with China?"

Well, I'll be very interested in seeing that exploratory discussion, hopefully, during our visit to China. Our Government officials will give me and my colleagues a good briefing on the opportunities of looking at Canada-China free trade agreement talks. I mean Canadians are free traders and I am open to all suggestions and that might be an interesting thing to be briefed on and learn about the interest in China and that would allow us as parliamentarians to raise the question as to if it has been explored by our Government.

This is a good example of the relationship between what Parliamentarians do and what government do, and our job is to ask government: "Are you doing all you can along those areas?"

Li: What, do you think, would be the obstacles to further development of our bilateral relations?

I think the only obstacles are those created in the minds of people and I believe that if we learn from the great thinkers of antiquity including Confucius that we must look into the open and not become prisoners of previous paradigms.

Consider the metaphor of between Canada and China, there is no obstacle except water... what does this water do? Water makes things grow. So we must in Canada and in China, always remember that between us there is only the encouragement to grow. There are no physical obstacles. And the obstacles they present themselves, in my opinion, are obstacles that men and women create in their minds.

Li: How do you comment on China's rise: is it an opportunity or a threat to the rest of world as some Americans suggested?

It is an extraordinary opportunity. It is an opportunity for the world community, and obviously we as Canadians are very excited in furthering this special relationship with China, because this is the very point of the opportunity that is there. China is very important to the world community. Many of us Canadians understand the complexity of economic development, the complexity of socio-economic development. And the challenges in Canada although with much smaller population are very complex. Therefore, we could understand perfectly that the challenges in China with so big a population are certainly complex as well.

As for China's economic achievement, it has been remarkable. Any economist and any serious economic journal, everybody has been studying something of a miracle of the Chinese economic development. So I am very optimistic and positive about China's rise.

We find it very challenging in Canada to ensure regional development so development does not occur only in one part of Canada. So under the Canadian system, we have a western economic development agency, we have the Atlantic economic development agency. And we have principles in our constitution to bring about what we call equalization payments to support Canadian family where there may be higher levels of unemployment and therefore lower revenue. In order for them to be able to have the same quality of schools, universities and hospitals although they don’t have the tax base for the money. The principle of equalization means money from Government of Canada must go to the economically less advantageous parts.

There are many things that we can learn from China... that is the purpose of meeting with interlocutors in China and how do we do this in Canada. They know we are a big country like China, geographically. So every country has to work out the model that is most appropriate for its society.

This will be my first visit to China. So I come as one piece of paper, with nothing written on it. Do you know what I say? I have no preconceived ideas. I come as a blank page and I am only to learn.
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