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申请美国读书 DIY - 建筑相关

我想通过一个完整的分析把所有的疑问都搞定，这样省得大家浪费时间。欢迎大家参照我的格式添加材料（我会完成主要的工作），在第三页后面跟帖，我会更新。谢谢大家帮忙。所有的信息都来申请学校的网页。请记住，网页上的信息都是为美国国内的申请者准备的，说的非常的清楚。请大家务必要从这些网页上获得最新的信息。如果我的信息不准确，请大家迅速指出，然后修正，以防对申请者造成误导。

我翻译了一部分，欢迎大家翻译一下别的部分

现在是几个学校，我会不断地更新
 申请美国读书 DIY (1) - GRE 的要求（建筑相关）
1. Harvard University Graduate School of Design
哈佛大学设计研究学院

http://gsd.harvard.edu/admissions/applying/faq_applying.html
Q: Can I waive the Graduate Record Examination (GRE)? Can I substitute another exam? How important is the GRE?  
A: It is not possible to waive the GRE. All applicants must take it, although applicants to the area of Project Management and Real Estate Studies in the degree program Master in Design Studies may submit the GRE or the Graduate Management Admission Test (GMAT). Test scores are one more tool by which to evaluate an applicant. Keep in mind that the committee is also looking closely at your transcripts, recommendations, essay, resume, and portfolio.

GRE是必需要考的，除了ＭＤＥＳｓ 的项目管理和地产研究方向可以用ＧＭＡＴ来代替。ＧＲＥ的分数只是一个评价申请者的标准，申请委员会会综合的看你们的成绩单，推荐信，个人陈述，个人简历和作品集。

Q: Is there a cut-off point for the GPA or GRE scores?  
A: We do not have a cut-off point for the GPA or GRE scores. Although successful applicants normally have at least a 3.0 or above for the GPA, and we prefer 600 and above for the verbal and quantitative sections of the GRE (4.5 and above for analytical writing), we encourage you to apply whether or not you meet these guidelines. Keep in mind that all components of the application are taken into consideration.

我们没有ＧＲＥ和ＧＰＡ的最低分的要求。尽管成功的申请者大都有至少等于或大于３．０的ＧＰＡ．而且我们更喜欢ｖｅｒｂａｌ　６００以上，和逻辑写作４．５以上。不论是否达到标准，我们鼓励你申请。请记住我们会综合考虑申请者的各方面材料。

2. Yale School of Architecture
耶鲁大学建筑学院

http://www.architecture.yale.edu ... ternationalstudents

All student applicants for the 2008–2009 academic year at the Yale School of Architecture must complete the General Test of the Graduate Record Examination (GRE) Program (see General Requirements).

http://www.yale.edu/bulletin/html/arch/admissions.html

GRE是必需要的，但我没有从上面找到最低的要求。

3. Princeton University School of Architecture
普林斯顿大学建筑学院

http://soa.princeton.edu/06adm/adm_frame.html
GRE is required of all applicants;  

http://gradschool.princeton.edu/ ... d8ad600000000725771

http://gradschool.princeton.edu/ ... /international/gre/  
GRE Testing for Citizens of China, Hong Kong, Korea and Taiwan
Educational Testing Service (ETS) will administer the GRE exam this fall for citizens of China, Hong Kong, Korea and Taiwan. Potential applicants to Princeton from these countries should be aware of the following:
  The analytical writing portion of the GRE is required to be taken in advance of the verbal and quantitative sections. It must be taken between July 1, 2007 and September 22, 2007 in order to be eligible to sign up for and take the paper-based GRE General test on October 27, 2007. This will be administered as a computerized test.  
  The verbal and quantitative sections of the test must be taken by the end of October in order to be reported to Princeton in time for consideration. This is the only time that the test will be administered. This single, fall administration of the GRE-V and GRE-Q portions of the test will be paper-based.  
  The Graduate School will only accept the paper-based GRE-V and GRE-Q test scores. These scores may come from tests taken no earlier than October 2002.  
  Exemptions: the Graduate School will accept computer-based GRE-V and GRE-Q test scores if,  
1. the applicant was formally enrolled in a degree program outside his/her home country prior to October 2002, and/or  
2. citizens from these countries are currently enrolled in the U.S. or another non-home country's educational institution (either for a bachelor's or master's degree work).  

GRE是必需要的，但我没有从上面找到最低的要求。

４．ＭＩＴ　（ＳＡ＋Ｐ）
a. Department of Architecture（建筑系）

http://architecture.mit.edu/faqs.html
GRE - Do I have to take the GRE's? Is there a minimum score required?
The Graduate Record Exam is required when applying to the following programs:
• Master of Architecture program (MArch)  
• Master of Science in Building Technology program (SMBT)  
• PhD degree in HTC (students educated exclusively abroad need not submit scores)  
• PhD degree in Building Technology  
There is no minimum score.
没有最低的要求
If you take the General Test that is all that is required (Verbal, Quantitative, and Analytical). You DO NOT have to take any subject tests.

b. Department of Urban Studies and Planning (都市研究和规划系)

http://web.mit.edu/admissions/gr ... department_info.pdf

Page. 12 Urban Studies and Planning Course XI
GRE: general test required

M.C.P. no minimum

Ph.D. minimum score required: 1200  
(V&Q) combined; 5.0 analytical writing
 
 
申请美国读书 DIY (2) - TOEFL 的要求（建筑相关）
我翻译了一部分，欢迎大家翻译一下别的部分  

现在是几个学校，我会不断地更新  

1. Harvard University Graduate School of Design
哈佛大学设计研究学院

http://gsd.harvard.edu/admissions/applying/

For International Students: Evidence of English Proficiency (TOEFL and TSE scores, or TOEFL internet-based test scores; see www.ets.org for test information).

我没有找到ＴＯＥＦＬ的最低要求。朋友们找一下。（我2006年申请时托福改版前的最低要求是５８０分）

2. Yale School of Architecture
耶鲁大学建筑学院

In addition, all international applicants whose native language is not English are required to take the internet-based Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL iBT), a test that includes a test section on spoken English (see General Requirements).

TOEFL iBT是需要的，但也没找到ＴＯＥＦＬ的最低要求

3. Princeton University School of Architecture
普林斯顿大学建筑学院

The Test of Toefl is required of applicants whose native language is not English.

http://gradschool.princeton.edu/ ... d8ad600000000725771　　

To provide guidance, however, to prospective applicants, the following information may be useful.  Over the last two admission seasons the average iBT TOEFL combined score for admitted students was 108, with the following average sub-scores: Listening 28, Reading 29, Speaking 24, and Writing 27.  Furthermore, data from the University's English Language Program indicates that of newly enrolling internationals students, those who score below 20 on the Speaking subsection of iBT TOEFL are virtually certain to have to take an English language course during their first year of graduate study to bring their spoken proficiency up to a minimum standard.

TOEFL是需要的，但也没找到ＴＯＥＦＬ的最低要求，学校只给出了上面两个ＳＥＳＳＩＯＮ录取时的平均分。

４．ＭＩＴ　（ＳＡ＋Ｐ）
a. Department of Architecture

TOEFL - Must I take the TOEFL?
The Test of English as a Foreign Language is required of those applicants whose first language is not English, regardless of citizenship or residency in the US while attending other educational institutions. No exceptions are made. The Admissions Committees regard English proficiency as crucial for success in all degree programs. In order to meet the December 15 Fall admissions deadline, it is recommended that candidates take the TOEFL on the earliest possible test date.
Minimum score required for PhD candidates in History, Theory & Criticism is 650 (280 for computer-based test). For all other programs the minimum score is 600 (250 for computer-based test, 100 for Internet-based test).

Students who do not have the minimum score required on their English language test, (IELTS or TOEFL) will be reviewed but can only be offered conditional admission if their applications are viewed favorably. These students should plan to retake their tests as and submit new scores as soon as possible. Conditional admission is not a guarentee of admission and applicants in this status may miss out on financial or other opportunities.

100分是Internet-based test的最低标准，但是可以到conditional admission，然后可以继续把英语成绩考到要求的分数就可以。

b. Department of Urban Studies and Planning (都市研究和规划系)

http://web.mit.edu/admissions/gr ... department_info.pdf

Page. 12 Urban Studies and Planning Course XI

Toefl: Minimum score required:
100 for internet-based  
All international students must take the TOEFL or the IELTS (minimum score required 7)
 
 
申请美国读书 DIY (3) - GPA 的要求（建筑相关）
我翻译了一部分，欢迎大家翻译一下别的部分   

现在是几个学校，我会不断地更新   

1. Harvard University Graduate School of Design
哈佛大学设计研究学院

http://gsd.harvard.edu/admissions/applying/faq_applying.html

Q: Is there a cut-off point for the GPA or GRE scores?  
A: We do not have a cut-off point for the GPA or GRE scores. Although successful applicants normally have at least a 3.0 or above for the GPA, and we prefer 600 and above for the verbal and quantitative sections of the GRE (4.5 and above for analytical writing), we encourage you to apply whether or not you meet these guidelines. Keep in mind that all components of the application are taken into consideration.

我们没有ＧＲＥ和ＧＰＡ的最低分的要求。尽管成功的申请者大都有至少等于或大于３．０的ＧＰＡ．而且我们更喜欢ｖｅｒｂａｌ　６００以上，和逻辑写作４．５以上。不论是否达到标准，我们鼓励你申请。请记住我们会综合考虑申请者的各方面材料。

2. 2. Yale School of Architecture
耶鲁大学建筑学院

http://www.architecture.yale.edu ... ssions/requirements
我没有找到对ＧＰＡ的最低要求。

3. Princeton University School of Architecture
普林斯顿大学建筑学院

http://soa.princeton.edu/06adm/adm_frame.html　
http://gradschool.princeton.edu/ ... d8ad600000000725771

Transcripts
One official transcript from every college or university you have attended should be mailed to the Office of Graduate Admission. To prevent delays, you should arrange with your registrar to provide transcripts before midyear grades are posted in order for them to reach Princeton by the application deadline.
在学院和学校的网页里我没有找到对ＧＰＡ的最低要求。

４．ＭＩＴ　（ＳＡ＋Ｐ）
a. Department of Architecture

http://architecture.mit.edu/admissions.html
没有找到ＧＰＡ的具体要求

b. Department of Urban Studies and Planning (都市研究和规划系)

http://dusp.mit.edu/p.lasso?t=4:2:0
没有找到ＧＰＡ的具体要求
 
 
申请美国读书 DIY (10) - 换别的专业及转入建筑学（建筑相关）
我认为美国的教育理念是：如果你已经拥有了一个本科学历，那么说明你已经有了很好的学习能力，在你转换专业读硕士时，就可以很快地掌握，不需要像本科生那样学习，这样课程设置就会比普通的具有本专业背景读硕士的年限稍微长一些。

以Texas A&M University为例子，说一说美国没有建筑本科学位的人如何接受建筑学硕士的教育 (一年的专业转换训练，如果a minimum GPA of 3.0，递交作品集，一般就可以进入两年的建筑硕士课程，这样的话，三年就可以毕业)，（而有建筑学本科学位的人是两年毕业）毕业之后，这两种人找工作是没有什么太大的区别。

http://archone.tamu.edu/architecture/graduate/career/career.html

Recipients of any bachelor's degree, other than a pre-professional degree in Architecture or Environmental Design, may apply for admission to the Career Change program. This program is intended to supplement the general education acquired earlier with the professional education for architecture. The Career Change program enables students who hold degrees in fields other than architecture to enter the Master of Architecture program.

The basic curriculum of the Career Change program is an intensive introduction + a three-semester sequence (3-week summer introduction, fall, spring and summer),  comprising courses in design and visual communication, construction and structural systems, environmental control systems, and architectural history. The Career Change curriculum may be adjusted to suit the needs of each student based on the background area of their first degree.  

Students who have completed the Career Change program with a minimum GPA of 3.0 and who have submitted a portfolio for review by the admissions committee, will be considered for continuation into the 52-credit hour Master of Architecture program. Some students might be required to perform additional prerequisite work before entering the professional program.

http://archone.tamu.edu/architec ... eer/curriculum.html

Summer(Introduction)
ARCH 685 Special Topics in Introduction to Architecture and Urban Design 2 hours
Fall
ARCH 601 Design Fundamentals I 6 hours
ARCH 610 Visual Communications  3 hours
ARCH 612 Structural and Environmental Technology Concepts  3 hours
ENDS 250  History of Modern Architecture 3 hours
Total 15 hours
Spring
ARCH 602 Design Fundamentals II 6 hours
ARCH 614 Elements of Architectural Structures 3 hours
ARCH 615 Elements of Environmental Control Systems 3 hours
ENDS 149 Survey of Architectural History I 3 hours
Total 15 hours
Summer
ARCH 405 Architectural Design IV 6 hours
ENDS 150 Survey of Architectural History II 3 hours
Total 9 hours
Total Course Work 41 hours

http://archone.tamu.edu/architec ... reer/admission.html

In addition to fulfilling the entrance requirements to the university, all applicants for admission into the Career Change program should submit 3 letters of recommendation, and a comprehensive goals statement. A portfolio displaying creative abilities and/or interest in architecture is optional and may include:

Reproductions of the applicant's drawings, artwork, or other examples of ability for graphic expression;  
Articles, essays, or papers prepared by the applicant on design or environmental topics; and  
Illustrations from the applicant's work experience in architecture or related fields.
 
 
Checklist
申请材料用CHECKLIST就可以了. 看一下当时我当时申请Harvard设计学院三个硕士方向的Checklist。非常简单，足够了。
 
 
回复 6# BinXia 的帖子
关于哈佛的英语要求在能够下载的一个设计学院的要求里面有详细的说明。不是只要577那么低了。
如果是iBT要每科都到26分，才能免上Summer School的语言Program
 
 
回复 6# BinXia 的帖子
关于哈佛的英语要求在能够下载的一个设计学院的要求里面有详细的说明。
不是只要577那么低了。如果是iBT要每科都到26分，才能免上Summer School的语言Program
 
 
回复 8# BinXia 的帖子
GSD的语言要求等的链接在下面：
http://www.gsd.harvard.edu/insid ... sion_financial.html

Required Test Scores. A transcript of the results of the General Test of the Graduate Record Examination (GRE) must be received with each application for admission to a degree program. International applicants to degree programs are required to submit GRE test scores. The GRE is not necessary for application as a special student. Applicants to the area of Real Estate and Project Management in the degree program Master in Design Studies may submit the Graduate Management Admission Test (GMAT) in lieu of the GRE. Although recent scores are preferred, tests taken within the last five years are acceptable. Applicants are urged to take the GRE (or GMAT, if applicable) as early as possible to ensure that their scores arrive at the school by the appropriate application deadline. If official GRE scores are not received by the appropriate deadline, the application will not be reviewed. When requesting that GRE or GMAT scores be sent to Harvard University, applicants should use the institution code for the Graduate School of Design (3455); a department code is not needed. For further information about the GRE, see www.ets.org; or call 609-771-7670. For information about the GMAT, see www.mba.com.

International students, except those from countries where English is the native language, must submit satisfac-tory certification of English proficiency sufficient to pursue graduate study. This policy includes international students who have studied or lived in English-speaking countries. As part of the appli-cation for admission, scores must be submitted for the Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL).

Scores from the internet-based test-ing format (TOEFL iBT), which includes a speaking section, are preferred. If TOEFL iBT is not available in your area, you must take the current TOEFL and the Test of Spoken English (TSE). If we already have TOEFL scores for you or you have taken the TOEFL in the past two years, you must supplement your scores with the TSE.

The TOEFL is given as either a paper-based or computer-based test. Applicants are expected to achieve a minimum total score of 577 (paper-based) or 233 (computer-based) on the TOEFL and a minimum of 57 (paper-based) or 23 (computer-based) on each of the three sections. A score of 600 (paper-based) or 250 (computer-based) is preferred. All applicants with scores below 60 (paper) or 25 (computer) in any of the individual sections will be required to enroll in an English as a Second Language course at Harvard during the summer before registration at the GSD. The minimum acceptable TSE score is 40.

Our minimum required TOEFL iBT total score is 90, with the following minimum section requirements: reading, 23; speaking, 22; listening, 23; writing, 22. The preferred total TOEFL iBT score is 100, with individual section scores of 26 or above. If your scores fall between the minimum and the preferred, you will be required to take an English language course at Harvard the summer before you enroll.

An international applicant who is currently enrolled in a degree program in a college or university in the U.S. may submit as a substitute for the TOEFL a letter from an English as a Second Language instructor who can certify the oral and written English proficiency of the applicant

If official TOEFL scores are not received by the appropriate application deadline, the application will not be reviewed. For further information about the TOEFL, see www.toefl.org.
 
 
回复 9# BinXia 的帖子
非常感谢melty的提醒与帮助。我会把它们整理一下。

对于网上的申请信息，正在美国读书的朋友你们肯定比我更清楚。而且即使在我申请的那一年，所有学校的奖学金情况都看了，唯独没有看GSD的。结果发现有两个清华的MDES and MUP拿到了好像是$15，000或$20,000 的东亚奖学金。实际上以我的当时的背景，很有可能拿到的。所以希望大家都能得到准确的信息。

我只是对于工作，H1B，及转学换专业比你们经验多一些。下面我会写出来，发些材料给你们参考一下。同时我会把我被解雇的经验告诉大家一下。希望对美国的朋友们有用。

再次感谢melty对我们大家的帮助。

具体讨论参见gter:
http://bbs.gter.ce.cn/bbs/thread-871609-1-5.html
 
 

北卡州立建筑学博士(我的朋友)对美国建筑学相关博士情况的介绍
美国建筑教育大体分为三种，一种为建筑学专业学位(PROFESSIONAL DEGREE)（包括undergraduate and graduate),这种被NAAB评估。
另外一种是与建筑相关专业，大体也包括undergraduate and graduate,比如bachelor in environment design, master of urban design, master of science in architectural engineering, 和很多学校设置的post professional degrees in architecture.
最后一种就是phd博士学位，美国有建筑博士学位的学校大概20-30所，博士期间主要是选修研究和理论课程，不需要选修design studio做设计
一般前两年是课程学习，后面一到两年是博士论文调研，收集数据和论文的撰写，在美国大概有集中研究方向，一种是研究建筑的声光热，节能和可持续发展，主要研究daylighting, solar energy等。一种是研究建筑，城市环境和行为,社会的关系，从而inform design and contribute to architectural knowledge。 一种是纯建筑理论，包括typology,建筑设计方法论，建筑美学等，最后是建筑历史和保护的研究。博士研究方向根据各个学校的特点有不同侧重点，但总体是学科比较交叉性，比较注重数据收集和科学的理性分析和比较。

Profesiona degree 和 建筑相关专业的degree区别在于，你如果以后出来在美国建筑设计公司工作，你如果要考注册建筑师，你就需要达到他们的education requirments，也就是你的学位是必须NAAB认可的PREFESIONAL DEGREE， 如果不是（包括美国以外取得的建筑专业学位），你需要通过他们的学位评估或者有些州（比如CA, MARYLAND, TX, NY, WASHINGTON，GA等）可以工作经验代替，具体的可以去每个州的建筑师协会网站查询要求。

至于phd,一般是到学校，研究机构，咨询公司和政府部门工作，这一部分的比例不是很大。

至于建筑的工资状况，总体来说是不高的，但搞建筑节能和声光热的偏ENGINEERING方向的比搞设计的要高。搞设计的刚出来大概5万左右。基本上是中等偏下。相比其他专业差了很多。这主要的原因是美国是发达国家，发展得很完善，新的发展比较缓慢，那么建筑房屋的需求不像发达国家，那么设计事务所的项目就不是很多，自然工资就不是很高。
加上建筑设计是个传统工作，面对单个的业主，没有规模效益。

大致说了这么多，有不足和欠妥之处往后来者指正。

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回复 11# 夏彬 的帖子
望指点迷津~本科生的疑惑~

本人今年刚刚进入大学校门，也是建筑系。十分希望能够出国读研或读博，但是在这一方面有很多疑问。
1.建筑系本科生应该如何学习以保证出国无忧
2.本科期间应该准备些什么
3.各项考试应该在什么时候参加？拿到什么样的分数？
4.我十分希望能像前辈一样去美国深造，能否简评一下美国各大学的硕士
博士学习及就业情况？
PS.我入门尚浅，对一些简称看不太懂，可否劳烦您用中文全称回答，谢谢！！

DixonWang发表于2008-08-28 06:45:51

Re: 望指点迷津~本科生的疑惑~

首先要说的是: 去美国留学读建筑学相关的硕士很容易，你的背景肯定可行（5年的建筑学本科学位）。另外相关的信息有一个熟悉的过程，你不得不学着熟悉各个学校的英文信息。本科注意事项我会告诉你们，写出这些东西来有一个过程,需要一段时间。

相关的讨论见下面相关的链接。

http://bbs.gter.ce.cn/bbs/forum-1010-1.html

Bin Xia发表于2008-08-28 16:16:21

版主指教

版主，你好。
想请教您几个问题，我是刚刚考入清华建筑学院的新生，专业是5年建筑学，计划将来到美国留学。
1、在清华读完硕士好还是直接到美国读硕士更好？
2、清华的建筑申请全额奖学金很难吗？
3、在美国读完建筑设计或城市规划硕士、博士有没有前途？
谢谢您啦！

qh2008发表于2008-09-07 11:53:53

Re: 望指点迷津~本科生的疑惑~

1、在清华读完硕士好还是直接到美国读硕士更好？
------直接到美国读硕士就可以

2、清华的建筑申请全额奖学金很难吗？
------博士有可能，硕士很困难，mit的规划会给一些全额奖学金

3、在美国读完建筑设计或城市规划硕士、博士有没有前途？
------美国的建筑行业现在很差。尤其不建议读博士。其实任何专业都是这样。不然无法解释为什么几乎所有的人都想读一个哈佛大学的MBA

Bin Xia发表于2008-09-07 15:05:00

Re: 望指点迷津~本科生的疑惑~

首先谢谢版主。
既然美国建筑行业现在很差，那我毕业能申请建筑以外的硕士课程吗？申请哪个专业更好些？

Re: 望指点迷津~本科生的疑惑~

我目前知道的建筑系在美国转行的专业有房地产，金融，计算机，MBA。应该还有别的专业。理论上你可以申请任何专业。

一般人们会转向在美国工资高并且好找工作的行业。例如经济，MBA，法律等等
对IIT的programme 2的疑问
Candidates who hold a B.A. or B.S. in Architecture (a pre-professional degree from an NAAB-recognized school) in a four- plus-two program, and who have completed the equivalent of the first year’s technology, history and studio courses, may qualify for up to one year of advanced standing in the professional degree program. Admission to Program 2 may allow the candidate to complete the Master of Architecture degree in as few as two years (four semesters), depending on prior preparation. Candidates will be notified upon admission as to their exact program of study, depending on their prior preparation. Candidates who hold professional degrees from international institutions not accredited by NAAB will be placed in the professional degree program and must complete two or three years of study depending on their previous studies, experience and accomplishments.
我对这整段话都很蒙啊，望达人解释下这个项目的candidate到底要有什么条件？

zhoumax发表于2008-09-06 09:58:59

Re: 对IIT的programme

http://www.iit.edu/arch/programs/graduate/m_arch2.shtml

对于美国的申请者（具有建筑学方向的BACHLOR OF ART OR BACHLOR OF SCIENCE在一个四加二的课程设计里：4年本科，两年研究生）（或已经完成了IIT第一年的相关的技术，历史和STUDIO的课程），有条件可以最少一年毕业.........

对于不被NAAB承认的建筑学职业学位的国际学生，必须完成2－3年的课程。

我有一个朋友在IIT读了一年的建筑学博士，然后退学，转到Texas A&M University拿了一个Master（原因比较复杂）。过两天我让他给你们说一说情况。

IIT是私立学校，学费贵，而且建筑的Ｃｏｌｕｍｂｉａ等私立学校较容易拿到AD，不建议到IIT读书。

Bin Xia发表于2008-09-06 15:10:50

Re: 对IIT的programme

十分感谢你的回复，我还是有些疑问，pre-professional degree,professional degree,post professional degree有什么区别么？他们和March I和March II有什么联系？国内的5年制建筑学但是授予的是工学学士对应的是哪种degree呢，可以申请2年的March II么，还是只能申请3年的March I? 其实我对学费很敏感的，IIT排名靠后，感觉能有奖学金才申请的，哥大是个ad狂，就算给了AD也读不必起啊。 我说说我的背景吧，希望你能给点意见，国内排名60+的211，建筑学但给予工学学位，GPA:81.7， RANK1/40， GRE 590+800+3.5， IBT 107,最近实习参与了一个景观概念规划的全国投标，我是主创人员之一，虽然进入了复试，有希望中标，但感觉蛮扯淡的，无非就是想了个中国政府喜欢的概念，然后就四处拼凑些帅气的图片，不知道这个东西放在作品集里面老外会怎么想。

zhoumax发表于2008-09-06 18:15:42

Re: 对IIT的programme

呵呵，刚刚的问题好长，好多，不知道Bin兄能否留下联系方式，小弟09FALL打算DIY，好多问题希望学长能帮忙指点，谢谢了。

zhoumax发表于2008-09-06 18:17:56

Re: 对IIT的programme

你到我校内网帐户给我发站内信，我会告诉你我的msn.
http://home.xiaonei.com/Home.do?id=242364580

"GPA:81.7， RANK1/40， GRE 590+800+3.5， IBT 107"你的这些硬件背景足够了，关于作品集也不会有什么问题，做到HARVARD, MIT的标准几乎没有问题。我回国后会具体的给你们建议。

“工学学士”也不是问题。不会影响你的录取，关键是会延长你在美国拿硕士学位的时间。这个要看具体学校网页上的具体说明。IIT的网页上说你可以申请2年的March II。HARVARD, BERKELEY你都可以申请，只不过年限要看具体的说明。

关于学费，你不用想的太多，因为你别无选择，美国可选择的学校很多，有很便宜的像TEXAS AM这样的学校。

“pre-professional degree,professional degree,post professional degree”这些东西等一段时间再说吧。你可以先在ｇｔｅｒ和美国建筑学院的网页上找一下答案

Bin Xia发表于2008-09-06 21:43:17

Re: 对IIT的programme

professional degree is a degree accredited by NAAB, thus, when you graduate, you can sit for registration exams after you finish your IDP.
Post-professional degree is a advanced degree related to architecture after you get a profesional degree. Some states may require professional degree for you to take registration exams
pre-professional degree is a four year undergraduate degree, for example, bachelor of science, engineering, etc.

archman08发表于2008-09-11 16:34:30

Re: Re: 对IIT的programme

xianglong, i appreciate you for your responding.

Bin Xia发表于2008-09-11 16:47:47

Re: Re: 对IIT的programme

thx very much,我能否这么理解，pre-professional 是本科，professional degree 是研究生，Post-professional degree 是工作之后进修？

zhoumax发表于2008-09-11 17:39:45

Re: Re: 对IIT的programme

you are wrong.他们不是一种东西。

本科，研究生是对学位的称呼。
pre, post-professional是针对建筑专业考执照而区分的。本科和硕士都可以是professional的。

Bin Xia发表于2008-09-11 19:25:59

Re: Re: 对IIT的programme

哦，明白了，但post-professional和professional对建筑专业考执照有什么区别？
你在前面的帖子中说Post-professional degree is a advanced degree related to architecture after you get a profesional degree. Some states may require professional degree for you to take registration exams 。 后面那句是不是打错了，我猜应该是Some states may require post-professional degree 而不是Some states may require professional degree ，这样这个句子才理解的通啊。

Re: Re: 对IIT的programme

Some states may require professional degree. 这是对的。考执照的标准是要你拥有职业学位（别的选择我不太清楚）。post-professional就是你拿到了职业学位后自己随便修的学位。

这些东西你要看美国专业建筑师的网站。
 
 
回复 12# 夏彬 的帖子
版主
您好。我在清华建筑系读大一，感觉清华的教学也不怎么样。能不能在大一申请到斯坦福或前20内的大学读本科？奖学金能不能申请到？专业可以自己选吗？
 
 
回复 14# ytboda 的帖子
我在清华建筑系读大一，感觉清华的教学也不怎么样。
---------------我也同意清华的教学不能带给建筑界现在领先的东西，是因为资源问题。这个以后我会从数字化建筑的角度来讨论这个问题。

能不能在大一申请到斯坦福或前20内的大学读本科？
----------------你可以现在transfer到美国知名的学校读本科读建筑，满足基本的入学要求就可以了。

奖学金能不能申请到？
-----------------私立学校的本科讲学金比较困难，但你可以尽可能的申请。

专业可以自己选吗？
-----------------理论上你可以申请美国的任何专业。交申请费就可以了。
 
 
版主你好
我现在是物理大三的学生，想出国学建筑设计，就觉得mit的专业方向还比较喜欢，我原先是打算申本的，但是，好像是有非建筑背景的master可以申，那，到底哪个好呢，还有就是，如果申 master的话，必须要考gre吗？
 
 
回复 17# xixihapi 的帖子
就觉得mit的专业方向还比较喜欢，
-------你有可能更喜欢Harvard的。

我原先是打算申本的，但是，好像是有非建筑背景的master可以申，那，到底哪个好呢，
--------读完国内的本科，直接申请美国的master。不建议直接申请本科。

还有就是，如果申 master的话，必须要考gre吗？
--------所有人申请硕士都要考GRE，包括美国人
 
 
回复 18# BinXia 的帖子
谢谢版主这么快的答复。
可是哈佛申不到奖学金是吧，前两天好像又看到可以申助学金，那，这样的话，mit在奖学金方面是不是会比较容易申请呢。
 
 
回复 19# xixihapi 的帖子
可是哈佛申不到奖学金是吧，前两天好像又看到可以申助学金。
-------------有人拿到了部分奖学金，但很多人没有奖学金。你做好你的申请，一步一步来就可以了。拿不拿到奖学金你无法控制。

mit在奖学金方面是不是会比较容易申请呢。
-------------每个人的情况不一样，这个很难说。我有清华的朋友拿到了全奖，有的拿了一些奖学金。你做好你的申请就可以了。这个你无法控制。
 
 
 
 

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