金克斯丧尸皮肤价格:以色列网民部分称中国给整个世界其他国家带来了大麻烦

Tony Pear: China will cause big troubles to the rest of this world. US should strengen relationship with China's neighbour countries such as The Phillipins, Vietnam, Laos, Myanma... Erase the communist regime in North Korea... Try to help weak countries to face any threats from China.

1楼Tony Pear:中国给整个世界其他国家带来了大麻烦。美国应该加强其和中国邻国的关系，例如菲律宾，越南，老挝，缅甸……

试着帮助那些弱小的国家去面对任何来自中国的威胁。

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Knaur ：Welcome to the forum, Tony. Tell us about yourself.

2楼Knaur：欢迎来到这个论坛，托尼（1楼的名字），给大家介绍一下你自己吧。

Israeliman：Do not forget that in bible prophecy, it says that China and some Asian countries will march west toward Jerusalem and cross the northern border of Israel where the water separates to dry up so that a land mass of Chinese ( Muslim and Soviet ) troops will fight Israel in the last days. I am not surprised the Chinese wants to fight us, Americans. I believe the U.S.A. will be on Israel's side. ( hope so ... )

3楼Israeliman：别忘了圣经里面预言过，中国和一些亚洲国家会通过耶路撒冷进军西方，他们穿过以色列的北部边境，那里的海水会分开并干涸，然后中国人（穆斯林和苏维埃分子）会在最后几天和以色列开战。对于中国想和我们开战我一点也不惊讶，美国人们。我相信美国会站在以色列这边的。（希望如此……）（译者注：此段圣经预言参见《以赛亚书》 49:12 “看哪，这些从远方来，为些从北方从西方来，这些从秦国来。”以及《马太福音》 8:11 “我又告诉你们，从东从西，将有许多人来，在天国里与亚伯拉罕、以撒、雅各一同坐席。”）

Tony Pear：Hi guys, about me? like you, i dislike China.

4楼Tony Pear回复2楼Knaur：大家好，关于我？和你们一样，我不喜欢中国。

odie072：Welcome to the forum Tony. It isn't that we dislike China, as I'm sure some of the people in the country don't agree with the oppression of their Govt. That is where we are at, we(most of us) disagree with the way their govt oppresses their people.

Most newcomers here, go to the introduction forum and say Hi, and possibly a little non-security info, no names, address, email addy's.

5楼odie072：欢迎来到这个论坛，托尼。我们并不是不喜欢中国。

还有，大多数这儿的新人都得去新手报到论坛报个道，可能还需要填一些小信息什么的。

Paparock：I am not disturbed by that alone as back in the late 60s, 70s, & 80s I along with those I served with trained to kill anyone we were sent in combat against no matter what their nationality. I have met some very fine Chinese including some very good anti-Communist fighters. I even dated a Chinese girl during my 20s. Judge people by the character of their hearts and not just the color of their skin or their nationality of origin. That way you won't miss some valuable allies. Trusting no one completely until they prove they are worthy of your trust is only prudent. The trust but verify rule is best here. It is sort of like during Vietnam it was good to rig bunkers manned by regional forces with surprises’ unknown to them just in case they were needed or if the position was overrun by enemy forces. One never wanted your own weapons used against you.

I was one that had a devious mind always thinking what if? My trainers rewarded me for my “healthy paranoia” since being prepared for the unexpected increases one’s life expectancy. Plus I liked thinking up new, different, and innovative booby traps that could catch even those experienced in disarming techniques.

Even before I joined the U.S. Army and was still in High School I had studied enough military manuals I was designing compounds for remote bush outposts with special welcoming gifts for unwelcome visitors. Reading every Russia and Chinese Tactical manual translated into English I could get my hands on through the military members of my family was light reading but then I scared a lot of people at an early age not being the typical teenager!

It all comes down to how seriously you take yourself, your job, and life. You also have to find out how to turn it off or it will consume you however. You have to have down time but you can never be totally off or you become an easy target. That little radar is just on auto pilot just below the surface so a sound, smell, movement or anything can trigger your survival instinct because instinct level is where you train things to become. No one is bullet proof and we all have an expiration date; we just don’t know when it is. We don’t have as much control over how we will die as how we choose to live. I suggest choosing wisely so your life makes a difference if not for you for someone else. No matter how much you hide or how many precautions you take death will find you sooner or later. All we can do is live life so when the time comes we have truly lived; don’t wait for tomorrow for tomorrow may not come.

6楼Paparock：回想起上世纪60，70，80年代的时候，我在美国军队服役，我们被训练得可以杀死任何人，我们被送到战场去和不论对方国籍的人作战。我遇到过一些很不错的中国人，在我20岁时，我甚至和一个中国女孩约过会。在判断一个人的时候要从他们心中的特质来看，而不是他们的肤色和国籍。只有那样我们才不会错过一些有价值的盟友。在人们表现出值得你相信之前不要相信任何人，这才是精明的处事方式。实践是检验真理的唯一方式。在越战的时候，军人一定要把重要的装备仅仅绑在身上，这样才不会在需要的时候找不到或者丢失。一个人永远都不会想要自己的武器被敌人用来对付自己。

我曾经思绪万千，常常在想如果当时怎样，现在又会怎样。我的教练员们都叫我精力旺盛的妄想狂。另外我喜欢研究一些小的，与众不同的新鲜玩意儿像是自制捕兽夹之类的，这样就算我被缴了械也能有所作为。

就算我在加入美军之前，那时候我在读高中，我也学习了足够的军事演练知识。我为前哨部队设计了一些化合物，可以专门用来对付一些不受欢迎的“来访者”。我阅读每一本英文版的中俄战术操作手册，我还让家人从他们的军人朋友手里借阅这些文献，可是后来很多人都觉得我很可怕，因为我不像是一个那年纪的青少年该有的样子。

这一切都取决于你自己有多认真去对待你自己，你的工作和生活。你同样也得学会去克制自己，否则这会耗尽你的精力。你不得不去经历人生的低谷，但你绝不能被击倒，否则你就是个懦夫。你身上装备里的小雷达就像个自动导航员，因此一个声音，一种气味，一次行动或者任何能引发你生存本性的一种东西都将成为训练你生存能力的工具。人终有一死，但是我们不知道最后一天是哪一天。我们不能选择如何死去，但是我们能选择如何活着。我建议你明智地选择你的生活方式，这将改变你的生活，就算没有，也将改变别人的生活。无论你藏得多好，或者过的过么谨慎，死神迟早还是会找上你。我们能做的一切只是活下去，这样，当那一天真正来临的时候，我们已经真正地活过了，别等待明天，因为明天可能永远都不会到来了。

cute_assassin：Tony, that would be completely wrong for me to say that I dislike china. It is a country of ancient civilization with a lot more to offer the world than what it already has. Gunpowder, paper, compass, navy all was introduced by ancient china.

What I dislike is it's present day regime not because of it's stand of human rights or anything rather it's aggressive policies towards the other nations.

It is continually supporting oppressive regimes across the globe... What they do to their own countrymen is one thing but extending those practices to other countries which harm it's own citizens as well as try to bring harm to my country is to me an act of aggression by china towards my country.

China's state policies of hiding the truth from it's own people and only showing one side of the story -the bright side- has led to growth of ultra nationalism amongst the population. I am all for being patriotic and having love for ow Ur country but blind love, a feeling formed without acknowledging our own mistakes and trying to prevent them is disastrous.

Could china have achieved what it has today had it been a country of free people and whether it would've better that way or are the people better off today is something we probably would never know.

As of now I think it is safe to say that we do not trust china's regime but that does not translate to us disliking china or it's people.

What all this has led to is hatred amongst Chinese against US yet they still want to move there... Something I still can not understand.

P.S @ Paparock, do you think we start a new thread where you can share your pranks from childhood with us!!?? We might not be that young, but why give a miss to a chance for pulling up a great prank and getting a few laughs!?

7楼cute_assassin回复4楼Tony Pear：托尼，你说我不喜欢中国那就大错特错了。这是以个拥有古老文明的国家，它曾对这个世界做出巨大的贡献，黑火药，纸，罗盘还有商船队，这些都来自古老的中国。

我不喜欢的只是它如今的统治方式，不是因为它对待人权的状况或者别的什么，而是它对其他国家的侵略性政策。它在全球持续地实行压迫统治……他们怎么对待自己的国民是一回事，可是他们还把这样的行为用在别的国家人民身上，就像他们伤害自己的公民一样去伤害我的国家。这对我来说，就是对我国家的一种侵略行为。

中国爱展示事物光明的一面，我也是很有爱国心的人，我也爱我自己的国家，但我不是盲目的爱，如果没有意识到自身的错误并去组织这些错误最后的结果将是灾难性的。

我们也许永远也不会知道如果让这个国家的人民自由的话，中国能不能取得现在的成就，我们也不会知道如果换一种方式的话他们的人民会不会过的更好。

现在唯一正确的可能是我们必须要说，我们不相信统治方式，虽然这个并不意味着我们不喜欢中国或者中国人。

所有的一切只会导致中国人反对美国，虽然他们仍然想着移民去美国，这是我至今无法理解的。

Ps: Paparock，你觉得我们再开个新帖让你分享一下你童年时的故事给我们听怎么样？ 我们也许不再年轻了，但为什么要错过这么一个相谈而欢的机会呢？

Knaur：I meant in general, where are you from, what are your interests, are you a supporter of Zionism etc.

I do not dislike China, only the policies and propagandist ways of their government, and of socialist governments all over the world. In fact, as a people, I like the Chinese very much in general, they are hard working, patriotic, family oriented and respect their traditional values.

8楼Knaur回复4楼Tony Pear：我的意思是，你从哪来的？你的兴趣是什么？你支持犹太复国主义吗？等等

我不是不喜欢中国，只是不喜欢他们的宣传方式，以及他们的社会主义政府形态。事实上，说到人民，我很喜欢中国人，他们都很勤劳，爱国，顾家又尊重他们的传统价值。

（译者注：犹太复国主义又称锡安主义，是犹太人的政治运动，也指支持犹太人在以色列土地建立家园的意识形态。犹太人在以色列土地立国已有超过三千二百年历史，而犹太王国或自治领在公元二百年前一直有断断续续存在。）